ICELAND’s BIG DAY MARCH 6th 2010.wmv
HOME INSURANCE & BANK INTEREST CHARGES ON THE RISE AGAIN —- www.independent.ie 700 US BANKS IN FINANCIAL TROUBLE ——– www.nytimes.com brazil’s THUGS POINT WAY TO OUR FUTURE ——– www.timesonline.co.uk iceland’s REFERENDUM ON MARCH 6th WILL BE ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT DEMOCRATIC VOTES TO BE TAKEN IN RECENT HISTORY .
March 2nd, 2010 at 8:48 pm
would it be possible to have a government made up of politicians not belonging to any political party?
it seems to be where the corruption with big business happens.
but then how would we choose a person for each post. lol, my grasp of politics is not the best.
March 2nd, 2010 at 9:22 pm
Dear Gerry ,
Let’s hope it all works out on Saturday.
Many thanks. jb.
March 2nd, 2010 at 10:18 pm
Dear prolog,
Even stopped clocks are right twice every day. At least he got that right.
Many thanks. jb.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:00 pm
Dear John ,
100% correct.
The State/Government wants you to be like
a sheeple- ‘ depend on us ‘ ‘we will look after your every need ‘ ‘ don’t think for yourself ‘
‘ watch our media ‘ ‘read our newspapers’ ‘ we need only a two party system ‘ —-
the nonsense goes on & on . It is very dangerous nonsense however .
We only have to look at Ireland to see the result. Many thanks. jb.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:03 pm
Hi tim – good to hear from you.
Yeah let’s hope the Icelanders send a real strong message to these Banksters.
It would be great day for people power.
Many thanks. jb.
March 2nd, 2010 at 11:28 pm
Dera Stevo,
Most of the time I read now.
Used to be a big fan of American Folk/Blues- Woody Guthrie , Leadbelly etc. also Opera – Benjamino Gigli & Jussi Bjorling .
Not so much any more now though.
Heard about the ‘ City of God ‘ film – will check it out.
The Mad Max scenario is becoming a reality for many.
Regards. jb.
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:01 am
@jbyeats
Churchill epitomises the fantom of Democracy in many ways. He was a staunch advocate of ‘Democracy’ yet when one looks at his exploits in South Africa, crushing the Boers (in the quest for diamonds and gold) who simply wanted autonomous, Calvinist societies (albeit at the expense of the indigenous tribes), and the use of the Black and Tans/Auxiliaries in Eire, the analogy to today’s situation is eerie.
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:56 am
@flyhead2
Dear flyhead,
Many thanks for the comment.
I appreciate fully the flaws etc in democracy. Nonetheless it has been around in various forms for almost 3,500 years. No doubt for a lot longer after today.
It will go through many other forms etc & hopefully will mature.
Agree completely with your educational criticism.
Churchill was a true elitist. He really should have
been the Duke of Marlborough – ( ie. his elder brother. )
Not even too sure it was his quote. Many thanks. jb.
March 3rd, 2010 at 1:10 am
@stevo728822
Dear stevo,
Really do appreciate your comments – only wish I had stayed up & seen them as you posted them . You raise several very interesting issues – including the question of the Norman invasion.
It definitely set the mould for future British history. The concept of ‘ Force Majeure ‘
and ‘ Might is right ‘ – was integrated totally into British law , ethos & social behaviour by these same Normans . Definitely a highly ruthless & mercinary bunch. Thanks. jb.
March 3rd, 2010 at 1:23 am
@stevo728822
3.
I can understand Cromwell – he left behind a broken legacy – and his Irish chapter is totally to be condemned – but he also left behind the basic concept of parliamentary democracy & above all the Republican ideal albeit short lived & flawed.
I can forgive him – but my fellow Irishmen conducting a 30 year civil war
against other fellow Irish men – in the main – that’s will take many generations
to forgive – never mind forget .
Raise a glass for Iceland. Thanks. jb.
March 3rd, 2010 at 2:14 am
Democracy is not mob rule when it is PR
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:12 am
@stevo728822
2.
Their is little real difference between Cromwell & the Provos except that he was an English Republican & he killed several thousand Irish men/women in a short period with a huge army – while the Provos are so called Irish Republicans who have mained & killed many thousands of their fellow Irish citizens over a long period – 30 years – with a tiny army . Similar approach – similar tactics – identical outcome.
March 3rd, 2010 at 3:59 am
@stevo728822
1.
Dear stevo,
Apologies ; I am only catching up on things now. Many thanks for all the comments. Seems like you were enjoying the Guinness . Good stuff – especially the bottled version – my favourite.
You’ve got great genes . I agree in the main re your observations etc. especially the historical perspective.
As regards Cromwell – he was one of the first great Republican figures of Western Europe – the first true
Republican to overthrow monarchy.
March 3rd, 2010 at 4:37 am
Look at Obama’s team of economists, advisers, even the Treasury Secretary, they nearly ALL come from GOLDMAN SACHS. Henry Paulson who distributed the first part of the Toxic Relief Asset Plan (TARP) was the former CEO of GS. We also have a huge problem with pension funds that have been promised & we have NO way of paying. Social Security, Medicaid, Medicare are all on the brink.
A govt. that grows so big that it can give you everything can also take everything away.
March 3rd, 2010 at 5:31 am
Good shout JB, Yes the Democratic system is best method for consensus, but only works safely with True Republicanism, which calls for Minimum Government, Sound Money and a True Free Market without any power hungry, corporate sponsored government intervention. Cant see any of that taking place in the near future with any of the countries involved in the IMF, wonder why? Perhaps they know exactly what they are doing?
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:19 am
Your right Iceland can set the trend of showing some backbone and telling the bankers to F–koff
March 3rd, 2010 at 6:54 am
Freedom comes with a price and that is responsibility. If you want to live on the planet peacefully and prosperous then the system must be fair to all. Distributing the recourses evenly taking care of the planet unfortunately this doesn’t fit in with greed and survivalism which is primary attitude of most. Most people dont want to be responsible, they want to be free to do what ever they want regardless of the effects on others and the state according to them must make it happen no work just fun
March 3rd, 2010 at 7:28 am
we need to distinguish between a democracy or rule by the people and what we think is democracy and have had for the last hundred years which is a representative democracy. There is a fundamental difference when people vote directly for laws or propositions like in Iceland or in the Cantons of Switzerland and people voting to elect someone who then votes on those laws. If those elective officials are honorable and have only the interest of the people in mind the system works, this is not reality
March 3rd, 2010 at 8:19 am
Democracy is a noble ideal but is highly flawed, especially when public opinion is so easily melded in the school system and by a vertically structured media emporium. Churchill’s comment sounds noble but it must be remembered that he was a mercantilist and a strong believer in imperialism, and was part of an elitist cabal whom strongly believed in maintaining the hierarchy which he served. The bank-bailout’s most vile consquence is the gobbling up of small, ethical banks and credit unions.
March 3rd, 2010 at 9:05 am
Can’t tell you how hard that is to write after 7 cans of the black stuff.
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:02 am
I say I’m British but in terms of geneaology, I’m a mongrol. I’ve great grandparents from Dublin, England, Wales, Austria, Latvia and Huegenot France. I’m genetically confused with protestant French grandparents, catholic Austrian grandparents and a Jewish Latvian grandmother
I guess that’s globalisation for you! In WW1 I probably had relatives fighting on all sides from the eastern front to the western front ( my grandfather was at Gallipoli).
March 3rd, 2010 at 10:39 am
democratic with the law being dispensed through the hundreds. In the north was the Viking Danelaw but even that was more democratic than Norman dictatorship that followed. The only interruption in this Norman rule was Cromwell and the Glorious Revolution, whom I know you would detest. But the Normans have recovered from this and taken control of the UK economy once more using the American concept of leverage as the tool to extract wealth from the common man.
March 3rd, 2010 at 11:23 am
Up late and pissed from the Guiness. I want to tell you something about Great Britain, you being an Irish Repubican. I’m British, and as far as I can tell the UK is still living under the effects of 1066. In the news they say this is an Anglo-Saxon crisis. I don’t believe it is. It is a Norman inspired crisis. When the Normans landed they emphasised the concept of proeprty ownership with the the land being ditributed amongst the Norman barons. In Anglo-Saxon England life was far more. .
March 3rd, 2010 at 11:42 am
With regards to Iceland, if you want to get a feel of how they might respond just watch the video Declare Independence by Bjork on You Tube. Says it all really in her own informative Icelandic style.
March 3rd, 2010 at 12:06 pm
Iceland “Abu”