Michael Moore’s ‘Capitalism: A Love Story’ – Pilots on Food Stamps
Preorder ‘Capitalism: A Love Story’ on DVD: tinyurl.com CAPTAIN CHESLEY B. SULLENBERGER III CAPTAIN, US AIRWAYS FLIGHT 1549 BEFORE THE SUBCOMMITTEE ON COMMERCIAL AND ADMINISTRATIVE LAW COMMITTEE ON THE JUDICIARY UNITED STATES HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DECEMBER 16, 2009 “My pay was also drastically cut by 40% and my contractual entitlement to a retirement pension was stripped away … Airline pilots do not live in a vacuum, and we understand fully and are sympathetic to the fact that many Americans have recently experienced economic difficulties. But airline employees have been hit by an economic tsunami … I attempt to speak accurately and plainly, so please do not think I exaggerate when I say that I do not know a single professional airline pilot who wants his or her children to follow in their footsteps.” Assume crash position at www.michaelmoore.com
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March 4th, 2010 at 9:38 am
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March 4th, 2010 at 1:30 am
Where do you think that money comes from? Your parents pay taxes to support you.
March 4th, 2010 at 2:29 am
It’s like any job, when there are too many available and wanting the job, the pay goes down.
Later on when there is a shortage of pilots they will be able to name their price. Same as my job.
March 4th, 2010 at 3:00 am
@Roguemember
Would not say that Norway has a homogenously ethnic population since 10,6% are imigrants.
March 4th, 2010 at 3:48 am
@TheKapers83
Also, in Europe, there is less of a penalty for being poor This is why Europeans enjoy shorter working hours and get many more weeks of vacation.
March 4th, 2010 at 4:05 am
In homogenously ethnic countries there will be much less difference in values between the lower and upper classes. A poor person in Norway is living next to other white Norwegians who are part of the same Norwegian culture and whose values arent that much worse than wealthier Norwegians. In contrast, living in a housing project in an American city is a scary proposition for a white person with middle class values.
March 4th, 2010 at 4:33 am
At the moment I owe stocks in 3 diffrent companies, but not in the company where I work.
March 4th, 2010 at 4:49 am
@Cookiefox No, a company in Norway does not have to give workes stocks in addition to their pay.
March 4th, 2010 at 4:49 am
@TheKapers83 I also believe you’re required to give workers stock in addition to their pay
March 4th, 2010 at 5:00 am
when I was a kid I grooved up in komunist country-they teach us that capitalism is the system to slave other people by few-we were so happy when comunist machinery ends-but they were right !. .
March 4th, 2010 at 5:19 am
Also in Norway the companies board rooms have to consist of 50% workers elected by the work force. This is written down in the law.
March 4th, 2010 at 5:21 am
Kind of sick that you americans have to pay to go to school. Here in Norway we get paid to go to school. So we have money for living expenses while under education.
March 4th, 2010 at 6:15 am
There is no “UNIONS” power anymore. If these pilots had a functioning “UNION” they would be paid better. Your boys governor bush and benito-obam, including the rest of the political establishment are in the “UNION” busting business.
Btw, I’m not anti capitalist although I don’t BS myself and say it is not a deeply flawed system. There is on “ism” that is perfect. Everyone is a slave to a central power structure, until technology is truly used to liberate humanity.
March 4th, 2010 at 6:38 am
I was a devout anti-union guy. . . until I started working for the airlines and understood first hand that airline management is much more interested in filling the front seats with the lowest cost pilot, rather than the best experience they can find. I watched my past airline skirt rules. I tried to turn in my chief pilot to the FAA. They got back to me 4 days later. Unions are not to blame here. RLA rules put unions at a huge disadvantage in negotiations. Trust me, I was a negotiator.
March 4th, 2010 at 7:22 am
Yeah lets place the blame on Capitalist not were the blame belongs, THE UNIONS. UNIONS only do good when there is problems at a certain business. But after the problem they create more by not giving in to anything.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:08 am
We CAN’T strike. . . the NMB has to approve it and we have to meet certain “standards” to be able to strike. We’d LOVE to strike, but aren’t allowed to.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:18 am
Politicians need to apply the LAW! The big problem is that corporate fucks and the government are on the same bed.
March 4th, 2010 at 8:23 am
That’s what’s wondering my head. If these pilots are SOOO important, why don’t they go on strike? I mean, a big big one. The love for flying won’t feed any families, and their disregard for their own rights will get them more and more underpayed, while some administrative fuck plays golf in Bahamas with their money.
March 4th, 2010 at 9:19 am
its sad that in this culture the most important people (teachers, fireman, policeman, etc) get paid like crap
But people that pretend, or play sports get paid ungodly amounts. And people wonder why things are so paid these days
wonder why. . . .
March 4th, 2010 at 9:52 am
I’ve always been a fan of unions because when I hear Rebublicans talk about not raising taxes on the rich because they are the ones who create jobs, they just say “jobs”. They should say well paying jobs with good benefits. That should be the goal.
March 4th, 2010 at 10:27 am
I haven’t been a big fan of unions until lately. I’m changing my view on that.
To keep the economy going strong, we need a strong consumer market. By destroying the unions, we destroyed the spending power of people.
US have far fewer manufacturing jobs (against union’s will), far less pay for the same job (against union’s will).
What’s left is fewer paid workers with lower pay.
During 40’s 50’s 60’s when union power at its peak, US had the best economy.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:15 am
whoa, guess I wont push the pilot thing with my two boys any longer.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:42 am
Ty4ons: Senior pilots for the majors carriers make about 100,000 k per year after about 25 years. That’s if they didn’t get furloughed after the massive layoffs. Intercontinental pilots make more, but it’s not the norm. Michael Moore is correct, in terms of regional pilots and their pay-scales.
March 4th, 2010 at 11:48 am
@Johansen1000: it is worthwhile. . . because it’s about flying. . . just don’t expect any professional rewards coming from this experience. This is about something else entirely. . .
March 4th, 2010 at 12:21 pm
skypurple15: yes. please check it out. Most regional pilots here in US are making nowhere 90k. Moreover, most of them fly under very difficult circumstances, many more landings + takeoffs etc, within the larger spectrum via the major carriers. Regional senior captains, with over 35,000 flying hours, and oftentimes flying in very nasty weather, make no more $ 55,000 – after 30 years of flying safely + all of their pensions have been gutted completely. It’s a mess. . .
March 4th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
I applaud Cpt Sullenberger for speaking the truth. These arguments are NOT about money, and about pilots trying to make more money. Ultimately, these arguments are about long-range safety – because once ’safety’ becomes outsourced for PROFIT, safety becomes an illusion. Many nurses + physicians feel the same way as this man: safety is being compromised for profit, and the FAA will do NOTHING about it, and neither will the FDA. It’s ALL about the short term profits. Nothing else matters. . .