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26 Responses to “How Much Have Healthcare Lobbyists Spent Buying Our Politicians?”

  1. [...] How Much Have Healthcare Lobbyists Spent Buying Our Politicians … [...]

  2. luvcheney1 says:

    Responsible folks go to gun shows, make purchases. There are plenty of undiagnosed psychos out there. The concept of confidentiality, and you have a mess. Automatic weapons refers to machine guns, most gun sales are of semi auto, bolt, revolver. Getting a machine gun license is possible in certain areas, but there are virtually no crimes by these people. In trained hands, revolvers designed 150 years ago can be operated to fire extremely fast, the concept, and debate is mostly a moot point.

  3. scbluesman13 says:

    gunowners don’t anger liberals. Spokesmen that stand up after mass automatic weapon killings in inner cities and tell the public that you don’t need to worry about banning these types of weapons anger liberals.
    Sportsmen and other responsible gun owners don’t anger or scare anyone. It’s the psychos that can go to a gunshow and purchase a handgun or AK way too easily are the ones that worry us, and I don’t think you want to lump yourself or others like you with the psycho crowd.

  4. xadam2dudex says:

    they spent $5 billion to buy congress for the banking industry

  5. GodAthie says:

    tell me turk do you how many unions and other special interest groups paid out to poloticans to GET a public option or to tax everyones health care benfits that dont work for unions?

    the money comes from both sides and teh commpanies are just playing the game cause the other side is doing the same

  6. luvcheney1 says:

    I admit, plinking birdies for fun was wrong, but I was a kid, and it WAS fun! By the way, my best friend shot me in the butt with my Daisy, and it was pretty damn bad. My birdies though usually were dead as they hit the ground, unless it was too big, like a pigeon. A hunter who kills a deer, and doesnt butcher it to eat, is highly frowned upon. If you eat the deer, is it still weird? I now (in my mature state of mind) believe killing without eating to be wrong. Its fun though.

  7. wtfdoihavetodohere says:

    I am somewhat familiar with the Garand M-1, I’ve held one but never shot it. I’m not comfortable with pistols, and prefer shotguns mainly. No, I have never “plinked birdies”; mainly because I would not like to be “plinked” myself, so I refrain from doing so to other creatures.

    No, eating steak is not “weird”. This is because eating is necessary in order to live, and meat is a valuable form of protein. But hunters do not kill for sustenance anyways, although they fantasize about doing so.

  8. luvcheney1 says:

    Is eating a steak weird? You didnt plink birdies with a BB gun as a kid? I was deadly with a Daisy. My daddy taught me to shoot a . 22 when I was 6 or 7. Taught me never to borrow money. I never financed an automobile! Sure, a house, but I paid it off 13 yrs ago, never refinanced.

  9. luvcheney1 says:

    Glad you enjoy your gun. The more “good guys” who own guns, the better I believe. Im 58, and I am fat, just like Elvis, Brando, Cheney. But not as bad as Brando or Elvis! I like old military rifles, My pride and joy is a DCM (Director of Civilian Marksmanship) WW2 M-1 Garand 30:06. This is a rifle that the Dept of the Army ( Fed Govt) mailed to my home, from the Anniston Alabama Army arsenal. With my rifle, I think Im the hunter gatherer, one with the land. With my . 357 mag pistol, Eastwood.

  10. wtfdoihavetodohere says:

    I’m a “lib” and I own a gun, and I go target shooting because it is “fun”.

    Unlike you, however, I do not shoot animals. Shooting animals for fun is “weird”.

    Tell me, you are old and fat, correct? When you are “prowling” through the woods with your piece of modern weaponry, are you imagining yourself to be a hunter/gatherer from eons past, at one with the land, armed with a crude spear fashioned from a stick, stalking his prey? Or perhaps you are a Cowboy or an Indian?

  11. luvcheney1 says:

    Why do we feel a compulsion to do it ourselves? Do you want me to wait for a liberal to do it? Seriously, hunters, fisherman have a better understanding and respect for ecology, fish and game than most folks. But, it is fun to fish and hunt. Accumulating firearms is also a soothing hobby, as is reloading ammunition, target shooting. And, it angers the libs. WalMart ammo shelves nearly bare! Ever since Obama elected. Same thing when Clinton elected. I got mine in the 1980`s.

  12. luvcheney1 says:

    Because its fun!! Get out with your kid in the woods, pitch a tent.

  13. luvcheney1 says:

    1) If you have a 30yr old married man in perfect health, or a 60 yr old fat, high blood pressure, diabetic, high cholesterol guy with AIDS, you deny, or charge a fortune. Thats simple enough isnt it? 2)Your good with point 2. Now I can sleep. 3) I mean that they figured my risk at 150% when I signed up. I better not stop paying my premiums EVER, because I am a bigger risk now. Thats a fact too. I am a hypocrite because I buy insurance before I need it? That`s called prudent. Buy insurance BEFORE

  14. wtfdoihavetodohere says:

    About insurers you said: “They assume the risk, and charge appropriately”.

    You also said: “If you want insurers to cover the “so sick”, you want high rate increases for all. Most of us find the rates high now”.

    Ironically, you also said: “I am “so,so,so sick”, but they are stuck. They cant reclassify my rate nor cancel”.

    Your first point was self-defeating. The second was a legitimate – however selfish – concern about subsidization. And the third was a hypocritical 180.

  15. wtfdoihavetodohere says:

    A fascinating point. You defend hunting by saying that it benefits the animals, who would other wise starve from over-population.

    Although this may certainly be true, most people cringe at the idea of killing an animal with their own hands. Considering this, can you explain why hunters feel a compulsion to do the killing THEMSELVES? I can assure you it is not out of mercy for the animals, nor for ecological reasons. I would like to hear your opinion.

  16. luvcheney1 says:

    Hey, mop, read your comment about the bison and critters we dont have. Did you know that the US grows 255million cubic meters more wood a year than it uses? 40% of the worlds excess growth? I think wood comes from trees, and cute little critters just love living in the trees. In 1630 46% was forest, today its 33% and growing 1. 6%/yr. They cut some trees to grow food and stuff since 1630. Google Buffalo meat, see how extinct they are.

  17. luvcheney1 says:

    Good for you! I tried to get a rise out of you, and got a laugh instead.

  18. LoryLandskipper says:

    Really? That sounds interesting, I wanna try it now.

    I’ve NEVER had bison, but I’m going out to Iowa for a few months Monday, so maybe I’ll find some out there.

    I’m always up for eating a new animal! :D

  19. LoryLandskipper says:

    What I had in mind when I said wildlife preservation was simply the preservation of endangered species. I guess I should have chosen those words instead.

    I hunt deer. I eat deer. This is a good thing since they’re fucking everywhere, getting hit by cars, eating gardens, molesting old ladies. Where I’m from, hunting deer is fun and rewarding.

    I’m fairly positive I wouldn’t condone any lobbying to protect deer.

  20. luvcheney1 says:

    The American Bison makes a meaty burger. Ever see “dances with wolves”? Those arent robots, or animation. Get them in your specialty food store`s frozen food section. We go RVing with my brother, his wife whips up antelope stew. MMM. . . MMM. . . good.

  21. luvcheney1 says:

    Read about aspirin. It is the 8th highest drug in death and poisoning. The number 1 and 2 killers of children are:Swimming pools(1), and cars(2). Did you ever take an aspirin? Did your parents ever let you in a car? Swimming? When I was in 7th grade. a kid was hit in the chest by a pitch, dropped dead right there. Mom let you play baseball? football? Everyone knows these things are dangerous, yet they exist, and we do them. Big deal.

  22. luvcheney1 says:

    Did you know that the population of wildlife increases to the point of saturation, that is, to the amount of food/water in an area? They do not practice birth control, so more babies come than natural deaths, so starvation keeps the balance of wildlife to food ratio. Usually at the expense of the babies. Shooting for sport the wildlife allows for the consumption of the meat by hunters. This helps keep the balance without the misery of starvation. Starve or shot? Libs vote for starve. Bang, Bang

  23. beeshor1 says:

    @luvcheney

    This isn’t about a “risk”. This is about knowingly putting out harmful product that makes money. If you watch the tape, you’ll see just what I mean. That you would even attempt to defend that behavior is telling. It’s similar to what mopsius said. If you check out the Bensaysian manipulation, it touches on people with your mindset.

  24. luvcheney1 says:

    So, when parents buy bicycles, give vaccines, medical operations to their child, are they not evaluating what an “acceptable risk” is? When you drive onto the freeway you take an “acceptable risk”. Dow must weigh what an “acceptable risk” is. So did your parents, and so must you. Big deal.

  25. beeshor1 says:

    @luvcheney

    If you’re comparing the “acceptable risks” that I was referring to in the Yes Man hoax to what a Parent does in your last comment, I must point out the glaringly obvious differnce between the two. One is done wih the knowledge that someone will get hurt, the other isn’t. If a parent knows beforehand that a child will be injured or worse by sending them out on a bike then that parent is horrible. I doubt that any parent knowingly sends their child into harm’s way.

  26. luvcheney1 says:

    I`m in business for myself, I pay 150% of regular rate on a HSA, PPO, high deductible plan. I`m at 150%, because my risk was “so sick” to make financial sense to my insurer. Now that I`m in 7 years, I am “so,so,so sick”, but they are stuck. They cant reclassify my rate nor cancel. “So sick” is my way of saying the math doesnt work out for the risk the insurer runs. If you want insurers to cover the “so sick”, you are want high rate increases for all. Most of us find the rates high now.

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